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    Sounds expensive.... lol.

    I suspect my rear diff may well be of the way out. Well, more specifically the Haldex clutch pack.

    The other day, I nearly s**t my pants when driving down the A38 in the wet, I put my boot in in 6th to overtake and the front wheels lit up.

    So that would be the Haldex not working then... Bugger.

    VAG COM gave me one I've not seen before, but altogether bad. 'Haldex Clutch - Mechanical Mulfuction'.

    However I drove it later and it actually was fine and dandy - Haldex working fine.

    However over the past few days, when booting it in second when really working the Haldex, the thing is producing bangs and feels like it's slipping.

    Anyone know if just the clutch pack can be replaced??

    To be fair, a new diff and clutch pack isn't the end of the world at £130 + del...

    Thoughts?

    Damn car is falling apart.
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    Im glad I'm not the only one, yesterday i had a massive vibration followed by fwd. 2nd time now, but last time it fixed itself.
    I'm really starting to hate this lame 4wd.

    I was looking on the bay about 6 months ago for diff and/or haldex units and I was expecting to pay 200-250 quid. Which is a fair bit of dollar considering how old the units can be.

    Have you considered doing a diff and haldex oil change? That's what im doing first, I also have a spare controller in my garage luckily.

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    I've looked into this & it's not a nice job to replace the clutches in the diff.
    The clutches are only £120ish from TPS.

    I think the best way is to get a second hand diff as I did & I was very luck as the person I got it off didn't know anything about it & I also got the haldex controller aswell & only paid £40 for Both

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    There is a complete haldex/diff at Bill's mate... its Danes but not sure what the plan was for it now he has sold his S3 on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    Im glad I'm not the only one, yesterday i had a massive vibration followed by fwd. 2nd time now, but last time it fixed itself.
    I'm really starting to hate this lame 4wd.

    I was looking on the bay about 6 months ago for diff and/or haldex units and I was expecting to pay 200-250 quid. Which is a fair bit of dollar considering how old the units can be.

    Have you considered doing a diff and haldex oil change? That's what im doing first, I also have a spare controller in my garage luckily.
    Was done within the last 10K mate sadly. Wish it was that to be fair, not an expensive fix.

    Rear diffs second hand seem to have plummeted in price though. Example: Audi S3 Rear Diff 2001 | eBay
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    I think Reesy still has his haldex stuff from his STQ A3 thingy or what ever it was/is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    I think Reesy still has his haldex stuff from his STQ A3 thingy or what ever it was/is.
    Replacement Diff sorted . Thanks Dane
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    Sooooo then, the next fun thing - how to fit it.... lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    Replacement Diff sorted . Thanks Dane
    Brilliant.

    Me and wasty was talking about you and Haldex yesterday.
    Hope we did not jinx it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    Brilliant.

    Me and wasty was talking about you and Haldex yesterday.
    Hope we did not jinx it.
    Saying what??

    Lol, no mate, was a bit poorly last week so wasn't you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    Saying what??

    Lol, no mate, was a bit poorly last week so wasn't you.
    Just wondering how much power the Haldex can take.
    He used you as evidence of it taking alot of punishment and still going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    Sooooo then, the next fun thing - how to fit it.... lol.
    Not fun on your back!!

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    Trip to Bills or find one of theses?
    http://www.rampandwrench.co.uk/main/

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    Just wondering how much power the Haldex can take.
    He used you as evidence of it taking alot of punishment and still going.
    Mines also done 155K + so credit where it's due. It's seen off 3 prop shafts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    Just wondering how much power the Haldex can take.
    He used you as evidence of it taking alot of punishment and still going.
    They are fairly resilient to be fair but age/mileage seems to be taking its toll... mines next then lol...

    There has been a few more posts recently for the (seemingly) normal haldex issue of the diff locking at low speeds which is typically related to the lack of regular oil changes... haldex servicing is oil change every 20k and filter every 40k but this is probably based on a std power car with ESP on most of the time so is unlikely the haldex clutch pack is getting much abuse... a remapped car with ESP off and spirited driving is more likely to tax the haldex more and I have started changing my haldex oil every 10k...

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    They are fairly resilient to be fair but age/mileage seems to be taking its toll... mines next then lol...

    There has been a few more posts recently for the (seemingly) normal haldex issue of the diff locking at low speeds which is typically related to the lack of regular oil changes... haldex servicing is oil change every 20k and filter every 40k but this is probably based on a std power car with ESP on most of the time so is unlikely the haldex clutch pack is getting much abuse... a remapped car with ESP off and spirited driving is more likely to tax the haldex more and I have started changing my haldex oil every 10k...

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    I do as much AWD wheel spin as possible because it's cool. . That's what has shagged mine guaranteed.
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    If it was me id open the buggered one up too and find out what on earth fails, because everytjing surrounding haldex seems to be a mystery and complete guess work.



    P.s. where the hell is dane anyway?

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    Good find mate, I couldn't find ANYTHING useful at all! lol.

    So, new plan for me.... remove prop, unbolt haldex unit from new diff (8 bolts), fit to new diff.

    That should be MUCH more simple than changing the whole diff since the diff should be fine.
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    Welly, please strip down your old haldex for us and get loads of pic.
    Or send it to me and I'll do it.

    I got no idea how the haldex works (Runs off to look at youtube) but can you not weld it up or make it constant AWD or something?

    EDIT:=- Looking at Daves link. Interesting. Thanks.
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    i always wondered when this would happen, another 1 up for the "real" quattro boys lol

    it would not surprise me if you could fit motorcycle clutch plates in it ! it's generally dealing with a max of about 130lb ft on your car.

    i'd get the plates changed instead of putting on a second hand unit, you'll find yourself in the same situation sooner than you think if you dont, you may even be able to get some higher rated plates to deal with your extra torque, surely plates from the rs3 haldex would fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    Welly, please strip down your old haldex for us and get loads of pic.
    Or send it to me and I'll do it.

    I got no idea how the haldex works (Runs off to look at youtube) but can you not weld it up or make it constant AWD or something?

    EDIT:=- Looking at Daves link. Interesting. Thanks.
    have a look at this, i's the same thing pretty much

    Castrol&#39;s Trizone Technology - Clutch (motorcycle oil) - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by colicabcadam View Post
    have a look at this, i's the same thing pretty much

    Castrol&#39;s Trizone Technology - Clutch (motorcycle oil) - YouTube
    Its just a motorbike clutch.

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    I broke te clutch pack in my diff trying to show off to some kids in a saxo. Made myself look a bit of a bellend.
    Really easy to change the diff surprisingly, there's enough slack in the rear shafts to enable them to be unbolted on the diff end and drop down, so need to even take the wheels off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    Welly, please strip down your old haldex for us and get loads of pic.
    Or send it to me and I'll do it.

    I got no idea how the haldex works (Runs off to look at youtube) but can you not weld it up or make it constant AWD or something?

    EDIT:=- Looking at Daves link. Interesting. Thanks.
    Already planning to do this ;P

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    On a more positive note welly, katy perry might be single soon.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    Already planning to do this ;P

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    Nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENJAMIN View Post
    I broke te clutch pack in my diff trying to show off to some kids in a saxo. Made myself look a bit of a bellend.
    Really easy to change the diff surprisingly, there's enough slack in the rear shafts to enable them to be unbolted on the diff end and drop down, so need to even take the wheels off.
    Ooooh I like the sounds of that. That's made me happy. Does it just unbolt and drop down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    On a more positive note welly, katy perry might be single soon.....
    I know mate, AND Katherine Jenkins as well!!!

    A source close to the singer tells
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    that Katy, 27, is “absolutely devastated” that her marriage didn’t work out
    Ahhh well, I'm sure I can make her feel MUCH better....

    What a start to the new year. I now have a choice...



    Or....



    Decisions decisions...

    We digress....
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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    Already planning to do this ;P

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    That was your opening statement about the whole thing.... 'I want to take it apart....'
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    Taking things apart rocks.
    I enjoy it more than sex...........Thats not healthy is it? lol

    All for you welly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    That was your opening statement about the whole thing.... 'I want to take it apart....'


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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    Taking things apart rocks.
    I enjoy it more than sex...........Thats not healthy is it? lol
    I don't think it is particularly....no....
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott b5 View Post
    Taking things apart rocks.
    I enjoy it more than sex...........Thats not healthy is it? lol
    I'm going to use that lol






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    Quote Originally Posted by BENJAMIN View Post
    I broke te clutch pack in my diff trying to show off to some kids in a saxo. Made myself look a bit of a bellend.
    Having just reread this - it made me think, that must have been wounding
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    Im glad I'm not the only one, yesterday i had a massive vibration followed by fwd. 2nd time now, but last time it fixed itself.
    On new years eve I had a massive vibration in 2nd followed by 0wd.

    Now I've got a 4 speed A3

    Bad luck wellyboots, but you've got more power than everyone, and you've spent less money than just about anyone else, so I thought you're doing pretty bloody well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    On new years eve I had a massive vibration in 2nd followed by 0wd.
    Yeah, that's a LOT more inconvenient lets be fair.... Noone wants that, especially not on NYE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    ...but you've got more power than everyone...
    ...for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    ...for now

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