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    20 valve or 5 valve

    This might be a really stupid question to ask, but why does my engine cover have 5 valve on it and my mates ibiza cupra have 20 valve on it when they are supposed to be the same engine? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/noidea.gif[/img]

    I have my hands over my head preparing for the onslaught of abuse... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

    Could someone please enlighten me with an explanation? Have I got the wrong engine cover or is it really true?

    Mine is a 1.8T Quattro 180bhp. His is also a 1.8T now revo'd to 212bhp.

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    5 valves per cylinder, 4 x 5 = 20 valves total! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ok.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    Now I can put an end to the mocking. All I have to do is chip it now so he can get a good look at the badges on the bumper round the roundabouts and up the sliproads! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/froggie_red.gif[/img]

    Feel a little silly, but will sleep soundly now I know what it means.

    Cheers Jojo [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jump.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    i have 5 valve on mine. but mine is a 1.8 t. is mine a 5 valve?

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    All the 1.8T VAG units are 20v. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ok.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    Its a 20v engine, with 5 valves per cylinder. Some call it 5v (audi, VW) and some call it 20v (Seat)... Its exactly the same thing, just different way of saying it!

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    It would be very interesting how they would manage to get 5 valves to 4 cylinders.

    5 valves / 4 cylinders = 1.25 valves/cyl

    Now thats what i call german engineering. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    It's amazing what you can learn. I just about managed to get the key in the hole must days. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_2.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

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    Also the fiat coupe 20v Turbo and non turbos

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    Had a 20vTurbo plus before the S3, lovely engine and the rest was surprisingly well built for something italian.

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    Those coupes are staggeringly quick my mate has one and has done 160 in it....obviously he has done a few mods [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

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    Those coupes are staggeringly quick my mate has one and has done 160 in it....obviously he has done a few mods [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Mine was far from standard too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

    ..would tear the S3 a new one past 80 I'm sad to say - gearing on those things is perfect for the 50-120 push.

    0-100 is ~14.5seconds standard.

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    I had a scary moment in one of those through some country lanes. I was only out in it to listen to a professional stero install in it and the looney took me for a flat out run through some lanes. Was really quick and very scary.

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    Yeah they are scarey to be in when the wrong drivers behind the wheel....my mate has stacked his enough times and blown the engine loads of times then rebuilds it.....so i have only been in the car a couple of times with him...i value my life [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    I was foolish enough to do it all over again when he came down in an impreza!!! Luckily we got stuck behind someone after a few miles.

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    he he Rob your a glutton for punishment....or just a thrill seeker [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked2.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    White nuckles and brown pants all the way. Might start a thread 'my mates got a...' or 'The quickest car I've been in..'

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    Come on Ess_Three go easy on me. It has taken me since November to work out how to open the bonnet!

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    ESS [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    hes getting worse than me!

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    and I cant stress the word "worse" enough!

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    I dont think Santa brought Ess_Three any presents and that is why he is in such as bad mood this year!

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    didnt he buy him a car? A nice one at that?

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

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    This might be a really stupid question to ask, but why does my engine cover have 5 valve on it and my mates ibiza cupra have 20 valve on it when they are supposed to be the same engine? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/noidea.gif[/img]


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    That's easy to answer...

    VAG figure that your average Audi owner can understand that the car has 5 valves per cylinder and 4 cylinders...and do the maths and correctly come up with 20.

    SEAT owners are a different breed. They need telling the answer is 20! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bravo.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    Thats ganging up on me now! Knew I was letting myself in for it though so fair play.

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    Yeah sounds it i wish i was loaded too... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

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    Yeah sounds it i wish i was loaded too... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

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    Not a case of being loaded...more a case of working out how important it is...and what you can afford to give up / do without in order to obtain one.

    I'm an ordinary working bloke, just like the rest...
    I just have more items on the 'sacrafice' list than most...and a 911 in the garage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

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    I'm an ordinary working bloke, just like the rest...
    I just have more items on the 'sacrafice' list than most...and a 911 in the garage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Yeah fair enough point taken but i still dont think if i sacrificed everything i could still afford one.....must push for that payrise! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    you could allways sacrafice your house and get a caravan cj! hehe [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img]

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    Re: 20 valve or 5 valve

    And have a fiat multipla to tow your mobile home and trailer with 911 on. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

 

 

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