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    Sandips (strange) build thread

    I've owned my S3 now for around 5yrs and in that time i've had some minor issues and some (quite alot really) major issues!

    Along the way i've started threads that i've tried to make informative as possible for everyone incase they ever have similar problems. I've done this thread mainly so i don't have to keep starting new threads every week, if i do something or am planning to do something i'll be posting it up on here, it'll help others and it'll help me learn also.

    Below are all the threads i have started where i've had something done and the problems that i have come across.


    Mapping issue > S3 ECU Removal

    Spraying engine bits and removing charcoal canister > Sandips crackle grey engine bits (pic heavy)

    3 S3 logs, differences in map > 3 Northwest 8L S3's logged - Who is closest to 300bhp??

    New turbo > PSI Tuning

    Cracked head pictures> 1.8T Cylinder Head Issues

    Turbo not working after > Cracked AMK cylinder head

    My symptoms for HG failure > Head gasket has gone:(

    Logs with cracked head (didn't know it was cracked at the time) > My logs, what do people think?

    JBS exhaust manifold/ Big brakes > Bank holiday goodies:)

    Intercooler spray > Intercooler Spray

    Pipewerx exhaust > PIPEWERX S3

    Early signs of cracked head > Coolant problem

    Pics of my top mounts > S3 Top Mounts

    Yaw sensor fault > ESP light has come on and won't go off


    Thanks to everyone who has helped me up till now, there's still more to happen, my problem is a analyse everything too much so it takes me longer to choose
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    Good idea mate, whens your new chip coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post
    Good idea mate, whens your new chip coming?
    It'll be getting a standard map (chip) put on then it'll be getting a custom map in around May/June, he's mega busy mapping for racing session






    Anyone got an idea of how to remove the board so i can have a look inside
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    Ok, just taken the board off, good news, i now know what map i have! woo hoo!!





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    Strange, must have been a very early map? I'm pretty sure mine was mapped through the OBD port @AmD, like 7 years ago!



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    Nice find mate, is it write protected then

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Strange, must have been a very early map? I'm pretty sure mine was mapped through the OBD port @AmD, like 7 years ago!
    Very strange!! I'll have to ring them and have a chat, the only thing i can think if is thatthe car was chipped very early it's in life?? Must be why when i drove yours it felt similar lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandip View Post
    Very strange!! I'll have to ring them and have a chat, the only thing i can think if is thatthe car was chipped very early it's in life?? Must be why when i drove yours it felt similar lol
    Or maybe it's not an AmD map, there's a company called AMD out there that make microchips! lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post
    Nice find mate, is it write protected then
    Protected from Revo and APR as they're the ones that have tried to flash the ecu, i'm sure AMD will be able to sort it out

    Is there a AMD dealer in Leeds Dave, the previous owner was from Leeds i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Or maybe it's not an AmD map, there's a company called AMD out there that make microchips! lol
    Bloody hell, your havin a laugh!! Hope it's AmD
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    I had an Amd map on my car 2-3 years ago and Jabba mapped over the top of it with no problems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandip View Post
    Looks like it mate, your car is officially chipped, mines remapped!



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    Thanks Dave, sent them an email asking if they have any records of mapping my car
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    Thats a Superchips remap... AMD is a different company who make the chips

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    Well...there's going to be a Superchips chip for sale soon lol
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    Spoke to Carl at Revo and told him what my issue is, he advised me to remove the ECU take it down to Awesome so they can send it to him. Revo will put a chip in with a standard file, send it back to Awesome, then they'll be able to flash the ECU and wack stage 2 on

    Opinions, Shall i go for it??

    Still waiting for AmD Leeds to respond to my email/phone call, i also emailed Superchips asking if they keeps records of cars that have had their maps put on
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandip View Post
    Spoke to Carl at Revo and told him what my issue is, he advised me to remove the ECU take it down to Awesome so they can send it to him. Revo will put a chip in with a standard file, send it back to Awesome, then they'll be able to flash the ECU and wack stage 2 on

    Opinions, Shall i go for it??

    Still waiting for AmD Leeds to respond to my email/phone call, i also emailed Superchips asking if they keeps records of cars that have had their maps put on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    Do it.
    Alex have you run stage 2? What are lambda factors like normally on stage 2 Revo? I guess it'll vary on boost and how well everything is flowing? My g/s reading are currently 230g/s just under 6000rpm, would this increase with stage 2/ Bill's 3"tip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandip View Post
    Alex have you run stage 2? What are lambda factors like normally on stage 2 Revo? I guess it'll vary on boost and how well everything is flowing? My g/s reading are currently 230g/s just under 6000rpm, would this increase with stage 2/ Bill's 3"tip?
    I never ran Stage 2 on the S3 mate to be fair, so I can't help you. Also, my S3 is narrowband lambda so any reading I might have had wouldn't be of any use.

    Not sure the Stage 2 would make much difference in reality, maybe some extra boost lower down. However I would certainly expect the g/s to go up with the addition of a 3" TIP. It is simply able to get more air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandip View Post
    Alex have you run stage 2? What are lambda factors like normally on stage 2 Revo? I guess it'll vary on boost and how well everything is flowing? My g/s reading are currently 230g/s just under 6000rpm, would this increase with stage 2/ Bill's 3"tip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    And don't call me Alex... lol. Only my mother calls me that, not even my missus.
    ........lol

    I'm scared of driving my car at the moment because how lean it's running, i got some BKR7E's mid week, pulled them out this morning to have a quick look, they looked white!! the 6's have been out back in

    Will post some pictures of the 7e's for everyone to have a look at
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    No offence meant bud, honest. It's just weird for me is all... :hug:

    Anyway, how come the car is running that lean? White plugs never a good thing. Photos would be useful.

    I know that feeling, I had white plugs after my FPR hose dies. I was taking the head off the next day and was genuinely worried about what I would find... lol.
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    What does a white plug indicate lads??

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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    What does a white plug indicate lads??
    White = it's got hot.

    Hot usually = a lean condition inside the engine from where there isn't enough fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    No offence meant bud, honest. It's just weird for me is all... :hug:

    Anyway, how come the car is running that lean? White plugs never a good thing. Photos would be useful.

    I know that feeling, I had white plugs after my FPR hose dies. I was taking the head off the next day and was genuinely worried about what I would find... lol.
    It's got a poo map which is only good for a standard S3 with the standard hardware, i've got no split hoses/boost leaks and generally the cars seem to be running 'ok' but who knows what's going on inside

    Might sound daft but in 5yrs of ownership i have never actually had a build up of carbon on my exhaust tip, i could leave it for 6 months and i'd get a tiny bit which is probably dirt tbh lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandip View Post
    It's got a poo map which is only good for a standard S3 with the standard hardware, i've got no split hoses/boost leaks and generally the cars seem to be running 'ok' but who knows what's going on inside

    Might sound daft but in 5yrs of ownership i have never actually had a build up of carbon on my exhaust tip, i could leave it for 6 months and i'd get a tiny bit which is probably dirt tbh lol
    LOL, I wish that was the case for mine. I have to clean mine every wash. I get residue all around over the top from the flames it spits out. Cool, but a royal pain in the arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    LOL, I wish that was the case for mine. I have to clean mine every wash. I get residue all around over the top from the flames it spits out. Cool, but a royal pain in the arse.
    I want some flames!!!
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    BKR7E's about 500miles after installation

    Running lean?











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    Quote Originally Posted by sandip View Post
    ........lol

    I'm scared of driving my car at the moment because how lean it's running, i got some BKR7E's mid week, pulled them out this morning to have a quick look, they looked white!! the 6's have been out back in

    Will post some pictures of the 7e's for everyone to have a look at
    Not sure how tuner map the 1.8T but I know on alot of ford/jags/vauxhalls tuners leave the emissions region of the map along (1000 - 2500), wouldnt be surprised if the 1.8T would be mapped the same.

    So during that region the map runs as standard with standard lamdba values etc so if the 1.8T are mapped in the same way, driving in that zone will give you standard values figures of lambda 1 so no need to worry about running lean, just a thought.
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    Lets be fair, it's not epic lean. I was expecting to see some proper whiteness there. They aren't great I grant you, but they aren't that bad.

    I would certainly stay off the loud pedal until it's resolved.

    Any idea of your AFR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Not sure how tuner map the 1.8T but I know on alot of ford/jags/vauxhalls tuners leave the emissions region of the map along (1000 - 2500), wouldnt be surprised if the 1.8T would be mapped the same.

    So during that region the map runs as standard with standard lamdba values etc so if the 1.8T are mapped in the same way, driving in that zone will give you standard values figures of lambda 1 so no need to worry about running lean, just a thought.
    They need additional fuel. Lambda 1 is fine for cruise, but it's too lean for high boost WOT applications. Lambda 1 being up in the 14.5s, ideal AFR for these engines is down in the 12s, around 12.5.

    Westle's issues with his fuelling was simply that. The ChippedUK map used standard fuelling, despite upping the boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    They need additional fuel. Lambda 1 is fine for cruise, but it's too lean for high boost WOT applications. Lambda 1 being up in the 14.5s, ideal AFR for these engines is down in the 12s, around 12.5.

    Westle's issues with his fuelling was simply that. The ChippedUK map used standard fuelling, despite upping the boost.
    Ye I know what you mean welly, was referring to the emission zone of the map (1000-2500RPM) not WOT. So if sandip drove his car in the emission region he should only see lambda 1. Only saying as he was concerned about driving his car with it running lean at WOT, if he drove in that region he will be running stoichiometric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Ye I know what you mean welly, was referring to the emission zone of the map (1000-2500RPM) not WOT. So if sandip drove his car in the emission region he should only see lambda 1. Only seeing as he was concerned about driving his car with it running lean at WOT, if he drove in that region he will be running stoichiometric.
    OK, coolio. He will indeed.

    As I said, the plugs aren't epic lean to be fair.

    Sandip, have you changed your fuel filter lately? I am a big believer in changing them for suspected fuelling issues. Most of them that are removed are as gammy as the River Severn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    OK, coolio. He will indeed.

    As I said, the plugs aren't epic lean to be fair.

    Sandip, have you changed your fuel filter lately? I am a big believer in changing them for suspected fuelling issues. Most of them that are removed are as gammy as the River Severn.
    Yeah, when i got in from work and looked at them they didn't look as bad, must of had dodgy eyes this morning....

    After doing the logs below the fuel filter was changed 7 days later, broke it open and it wasn't that bad really



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    Was that under full throttle? Can you stick the RPM on that log dude? At one point it's requesting lambda 1.09.... Hmmmm.
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    Here you go bud, might aswell chuck both on



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    Not a good map from the above.... What map is it? Should be requesting around lambda .85

    Way lean, and lots of over boost...?
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