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    3" Downpipe Guide - would it be useful for anyone?

    Yo yo all,

    I am test fitting a 3" downpipe at some point over the next 2 weeks on an OEM car. (How pleased I am - NOT)

    I can photograph it all and document it if anyone thinks it would be useful for them?

    Let me know...
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    Yes please mate. If I get a 3" TIP next weekend I will soon want 3 inches on the otherside too Is this the XS power one by any chance?

    Depending on what Bills diags show for my exhaust system (as its not right) I might be purchasing a 3" downpipe soon.
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    Yep this would be very useful mate... Is it the Xs Power one Welly ?

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    Defo useful, but i'm gonna get Bill to fit mine as I will probably end up fitting it upside down If i do it.

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    I can neither confirm nor deny this.... It is simply 'a' 3" downpipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dane View Post
    Defo useful, but i'm gonna get Bill to fit mine as I will probably end up fitting it upside down If i do it.
    I'll be having a crack at it myself. Much more satisfaction that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    I can neither confirm nor deny this.... It is simply 'a' 3" downpipe.

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    definately useful, I've weighed it up numerous times and I'm still unsure which angle and where to attack it from given the lack of space. Can't be easy

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    I would, but thus far I've pretty much got something wrong every time, which then ends up costing to put right lol, plus Bill has ramps which I imagine will make installation a bit easier.
    Big +1 for doing it yourself but I'm just not well versed enough at the mo.

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    Can you also time how long it takes too Welly. The amount of times I've looked at guides and it looks easy then I start the job and I'm still doing it 4 hours later!
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    Yep, would be very useful if you could do a guide!
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    Be interesting to see how you get the OEM downpipe out because when I was doing mine it was a MASSIVE pain in the ass getting it out lol.

    I have 2 very good guides that I used when i was doing mine if anyone wants them or post a link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Be interesting to see how you get the OEM downpipe out because when I was doing mine it was a MASSIVE pain in the ass getting it out lol.

    I have 2 very good guides that I used when i was doing mine if anyone wants them or post a link.
    Post up what you've got Nath and we'll take a look.
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    Ok mate, when i get home il post them up for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    Yo yo all,

    I am test fitting a 3" downpipe at some point over the next 2 weeks on an OEM car. (How pleased I am - NOT)

    I can photograph it all and document it if anyone thinks it would be useful for them?

    Let me know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Be interesting to see how you get the OEM downpipe out because when I was doing mine it was a MASSIVE pain in the ass getting it out lol.
    It is that. Three options for getting it out IMO.

    Option 1. Drop the subframe to allow more room to pass it through. This is quite commonly done. Mark the subframe's location before hand to align back up somewhere close.

    Option 2. Drop the front end of the prop off of the transfer box. Not an easy task, how ever is possible. This is how I did mine.

    Option 3. Cut the original into 2 pieces whilst fitted and remove.
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    I done option 1 and 3 but cut it into 3 parts I think and still was an ass, I was doing it on my drive too though. Once the subframe was dropped and the downpipe cut into 3 parts the flange didnt want to come around the prop, come out in the end though. Would be a good idea to take the OSF driveshaft out too for space. Would you really need to mark the subframe position as it only goes back on in one position.

    Getting the new one on is simple compared to taking the old one out. Fair play to you welly for doing it again, I never want to take an S3 OEM downpipe off again inless I have a ramp.
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    Now you've worried me welly, I dropped my subframe the other night to fit a steering rack Bush and didn't mark anything, had no idea there was any alignment, just four simple bolts n goles. Uh oh.




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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    Now you've worried me welly, I dropped my subframe the other night to fit a steering rack Bush and didn't mark anything, had no idea there was any alignment, just four simple bolts n goles. Uh oh.




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    I wouldn't worry too much mate as i'm assuming you'll be getting a 4 wheel alignment done once you've finished changing all the suspension bushes? Whoever does that for you will get it all straight again
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    Now you've worried me welly, I dropped my subframe the other night to fit a steering rack Bush and didn't mark anything, had no idea there was any alignment, just four simple bolts n goles. Uh oh.




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    I didnt mark anything either as it only goes back on in one position. Only mark the balljoints when ever I change them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westle View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much mate as i'm assuming you'll be getting a 4 wheel alignment done once you've finished changing all the suspension bushes? Whoever does that for you will get it all straight again
    Exactly - as long as she drive straight for now then all will probably be well. Just get the wheel alignment checked at some point.
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    Yeh I thought that, but my mission was to get it straight as poss so I can drive it to awesome. Ahhh well, all over the road il be

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Fair play to you welly for doing it again, I never want to take an S3 OEM downpipe off again inless I have a ramp.
    LOL, the funny thing is I don't even need one. I'm only doing this so that everyone can buy one as they will actually fit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    I didnt mark anything either as it only goes back on in one position. Only mark the balljoints when ever I change them
    No, there is movement in the frame when unbolted - not much, but it is likely to move when dropped.
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    So how long till the group buy on the xs power items welly? The threads closing end of March isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    LOL, the funny thing is I don't even need one. I'm only doing this so that everyone can buy one as they will actually fit...

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    If it is an XS power one then a few peeps on the TT forum have fitted them and apart from the turbo bolt holes needing to be enlarged and the corner of the flange grinding down to allow them to fit they all failed to pass the emissions test at MOT time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    LOL, the funny thing is I don't even need one. I'm only doing this so that everyone can buy one as they will actually fit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Josh View Post
    If it is an XS power one then a few peeps on the TT forum have fitted them and apart from the turbo bolt holes needing to be enlarged and the corner of the flange grinding down to allow them to fit they all failed to pass the emissions test at MOT time

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    Welly has been working with them to sort out the above issues so fingers crossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    So how long till the group buy on the xs power items welly? The threads closing end of March isn't it?
    Yeah, that was only an interest gauger though. Once I have seen the revised item, and it's been analysed then we can kick that off.

    Shouldn't be too long though, lets put it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    No, there is movement in the frame when unbolted - not much, but it is likely to move when dropped.
    I didnt mean when Its unbolted, it does have quite a bit of movement once unbolted and dropped. I mean you cannot slide the subframe on the bolts or anything like you can with the balljoint in the wishbone for adjustment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    I didnt mean when Its unbolted, it does have quite a bit of movement once unbolted and dropped. I mean you cannot slide the subframe on the bolts or anything like you can with the balljoint in the wishbone for adjustment.
    Ahhh right, with you now - sorry dude. No, it doesn't move like that, although it will come forwards and backwards small amounts even when the bolts are slackened, and this is enough to throw the geometry out annoyingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Josh View Post
    If it is an XS power one then a few peeps on the TT forum have fitted them and apart from the turbo bolt holes needing to be enlarged and the corner of the flange grinding down to allow them to fit they all failed to pass the emissions test at MOT time

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    Ye it is the same, they dont pass from what I have read and experienced myself, want to see if anyone passes on here once they get theres from the group buy. Mine rusted to ****e too after 4 month or so, worse than my 8 year old OEM cat back.

    Welly, next time you talk to XS could you ask them why the lambda hole on the cats have been blanked up so the 2nd lambda gets no exhaust gases on it so you get a fault code on a sports cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Ye it is the same, they dont pass from what I have read and experienced myself, want to see if anyone passes on here once they get theres from the group buy. Mine rusted to ****e too after 4 month or so, worse than my 8 year old OEM cat back.

    Welly, next time you talk to XS could you ask them why the lambda hole on the cats have been blanked up so the 2nd lambda gets no exhaust gases on it so you get a fault code on a sports cat.
    Yeah, can do, and have in the past.
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    Cheer dude. I was thinking they know there cats wont pass and just blanked the hole up, dont know why they blank them up for. Shouldnt get a fault code on a sports cat really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Cheer dude. I was thinking they know there cats wont pass and just blanked the hole up, dont know why they blank them up for. Shouldnt get a fault code on a sports cat really.
    To be fair, I believe the logic was this:

    Pre facelift S3 don't have a post cat lambda at all. So they set the downpipe up that way. It has the thread for the post cat lambda if you have one, however if you don't then the thing will need to be drilled.

    I agree that it's not ideal - The simplest option being to prove a screw in lambda bung.
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    Does make sense if it was designed for a pre facelift. Just annoying having a sports cat and getting a fault code.

    The lambda hole on mine is about 2 inch deep and blanked off at the end so even if the hole was drilled out the lambda probe will still not get no gases flowing over it as its about an inch long maybe the probe so brings up the fault code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3 Nattie View Post
    Does make sense if it was designed for a pre facelift. Just annoying having a sports cat and getting a fault code.

    The lambda hole on mine is about 2 inch deep and blanked off at the end so even if the hole was drilled out the lambda probe will still not get no gases flowing over it as its about an inch long maybe the probe so brings up the fault code.
    Don't get me wrong dude, I totally agree with you, and it has come up in conversation before. I've passed on the info about the cats to the relevant parties.
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