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    Question water methanol injection ??

    hey,,

    im after abit of info im doingto install my wmi kit but i want to put my tank in the boot what pipe can i use to run from back of car to the front I was thinking if I could use 4mm silicone pipe ??

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    where can i buy methanol from in the Birmingham area ?

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    silicon wont hold the pressure.. unless the pump you are using is low pressure one..
    what kit do you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
    silicon wont hold the pressure.. unless the pump you are using is low pressure one..
    what kit do you have?
    i have the cooling mist one mate it as a high pressure 200-250 psi pump,

    can you supply the pipe ?

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    what size connections to the nizzle/pump?
    they are push fit connections usually. plastic/nylon airline small bore type pipes.
    1/4" size on US kits usually.

    silicon vac hose is not going to be correct for this
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    4mm is too big , use a heat proof pipe. Make sure u buy decent quality meth coz u get cheap 'offcuts' , also increase timing with lemmiwinks. My meth comes in at about 1 bar off boost, the 1.8T's dont like large quantities injected so becareful. It made a HUGE difference!
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    Wmi reduced my intake temps by 30 degrees! I run 70% meth with 30% water, the nozzle is mounted by the map sensor and the pump is mounted behind the front bumper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade S3 View Post
    Wmi reduced my intake temps by 30 degrees! I run 70% meth with 30% water, the nozzle is mounted by the map sensor and the pump is mounted behind the front bumper
    Too much meth there - 50/50 is the max that the cooling mist pumps allow before their internals begin to get eaten by the meth...
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    Hey welly judging by your power figures im sure 50/50 works great, will do that from now on. Thanks alot, your car looks epic. Do u have any videos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony696 View Post
    where can i buy methanol from in the Birmingham area ?
    I always get mine from

    Sunoco racing methanol - Chemicals - Racing fuels - Motor racing fuel & racing oil from Anglo American Oils UK: Suppliers of high performance motor sports fuels - oils & Lubricants.

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    look for your local biodiesel suppliers for virgin grade 99.95% methanol.

    50/50 is max you should mix.. pumps/seals etc not rated more than that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade S3 View Post
    4mm is too big , use a heat proof pipe. Make sure u buy decent quality meth coz u get cheap 'offcuts' , also increase timing with lemmiwinks. My meth comes in at about 1 bar off boost, the 1.8T's dont like large quantities injected so becareful. It made a HUGE difference!
    who said 4mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
    who said 4mm?
    The OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
    what size connections to the nizzle/pump?
    they are push fit connections usually. plastic/nylon airline small bore type pipes.
    1/4" size on US kits usually.

    silicon vac hose is not going to be correct for this
    yh it as got the 1/4" pipe with push on connections.. air line pipe as in like air compressor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade S3 View Post
    4mm is too big , use a heat proof pipe. Make sure u buy decent quality meth coz u get cheap 'offcuts' , also increase timing with lemmiwinks. My meth comes in at about 1 bar off boost, the 1.8T's dont like large quantities injected so becareful. It made a HUGE difference!
    lol 4mm i know now haha i looked at the wrong pipe lol i think ive sorted the pipe now

    all ready for mapping now

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
    who said 4mm?
    me lol i looked at the wrong pipe woops lol think ive sorted the pipe now ive got a local hose specialist around the corner from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade S3 View Post
    Hey welly judging by your power figures im sure 50/50 works great, will do that from now on. Thanks alot, your car looks epic. Do u have any videos?
    I don't run water meth yet... fitting it next week...
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    log 020 when playing with it.. (wmi that is )

    unisettings to add some timing, in little steps, you dont want to see more than 6CF on block 020
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    Quote Originally Posted by JS1500 View Post
    The OP.

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    lol... why could'nt I see that... jeez I need glasses

    1/4" is its size tho..
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    thanks all

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    where is the best place to put the injector in boost pipe ? just before throttle body ?

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    No that is to close, anywhere after the IC ,wellys just put his on, look at his thread

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    My friend Bruce owns Methanol-Injection and he would be open for group buys.

    If local he can get it fitted also.

    His demo car is a 550bhp Skyline.

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    thing is Devils Own have proven to me to be very unreliable controllers and their service backup is deadly slow
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    Is that through my friends website?

    If it is it surprises me as he is dedicated to his customers.

    Let me know.

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    he does'nt make devils own, he supplies them.. DO themselves have been dire in turning round their failed controllers... Not your friend.. never dealt with him personally. I'm sure he's fine.
    I think, DO had an issue with their design, as the ones I had fail on several customer cars were all what looks to be a superceeded controller, but my condifence in DO given the hassle it caused me has gone.
    AEM get my business now... and boy thats a decent kit, well price and fully featured out of the box, better engineered imho. I have used Aquamist, Snow Performance, Devils Own, and now AEM... and AEM is the best kit I have yet used.
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    Fair comment. If you've tried them all................you're in a place to call judgement.

 

 

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