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    Mine's just arrived (Red). Will report back once I've fitted it along with Haldex blue and a new thermostat this weekend.
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    You won't believe the improvement it makes to the feel of the car, and for under £20. BARGAIN.
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    Anyone got a nocking noise after fitting this?..when going over pot holes etc,

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    No mate. Maybe fitting the mount has highlighted another issue on your car?
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    Are all 5 nuts/bolts correctly torqued?
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    Its a nocking noise when i go over pot hole etc just from the drivers side.im gonna take it off again and torque all the nuts up and try then.im sure it has only started since i fitted it!.

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    It may have highlighted a weakness somewhere in your suspension. Could be bushes or ball joints.
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    Nope mate ive done all that,i dont have a arb.i have new wishbones,new top mounts,new bearings etc and new coilovers!..i have just taken out the front coilover and the sharft has play so i put my old ones back in but still have the same problem!.

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    Hmmm bit strange.
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    Got my deisal dog mount I'll post how it is. Will be done with new top mounts , lowered 30+mm more and a TT arb
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    HEy, I changed my bush to the red diesel one......plus loads of other bits, ball joints, tie arms, full superpro front bush kit etc etc etc and then i got a knocking when pulling off, braking, turning, over bumps etc.....It was driving me MENTAL! Turns out that the rear engine mount is not supposed to be removed that often and being stretch bolts into aluminium they can wreak havoc with the threads in transmission.....Every time i removed the mount to look for the noise and the re torqued the bolts i was stripping a little more thread....it gave way on me last install......drove it to Midland VW and Jody heli-coiled it for me....knock has now gone.

    The middle 16mm bolt was swinging in the threads, causing the knock.....not that common but getting more so as everyone is changing bushes apparently.

    Can fault Midland VW top top garage, will defo be using them in the future.

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    The audi technician I know actually advised me to use brand new bolts too. I haven't though.
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    Cheers for the links - just ordered mine

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    Hmm aint sure if its the mount as it sounds like a clanging noise,something loose!..perhaps i should get some new bolts then i can cross that off if its that or not...maybe the coils hitting each other?..it is very low!

    One other thing,any other good mounts worth replacing/uprating?.

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    how much are the bolts?
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    Not too sure. Probably a good £3 each as they're quite hefty.
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    oh thats ok-ish. you think its worth buying them. dont think my dog mount has ever been changed tbh
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    have fiited mine yet, glad i ordered the bolts as well though!

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    To be honest. Audi technicians will advise you to change most bolts when changing parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    Just fitted the diesel mounts on the S3 : Awesome - Powerflex Front Engine Mount Dog Bone PFF85-420R - Golf Mk4 etc Diesel NEW

    No vibrations in cabin
    Power transmission feels solid and smooth & tight
    Gear changes not clunky or difficult or thumps in

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    Dont surpose anyone has the part numbers for the bolts please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westle View Post
    To be honest. Audi technicians will advise you to change most bolts when changing parts.
    Including the wheels?
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    Yeh part numbers would be good
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    Can also vouch for this being a good mod for the money.

    Awesome gti fitted mine on Friday and wow it makes a very noticeable difference. Would never have considered it had I not seen this thread so thanks guys.
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    Can I get a thanks for everyone that found this useful then please haha
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    Stop posting pics and get under your car!
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    Am posting this whilst under car

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    Quote Originally Posted by voorhees View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGainey View Post
    Can I get a thanks for everyone that found this useful then please haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westle View Post
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    Bit of help if poss please just doing mine now undone all the bolts but one of the heads on the 13mm bolts decided to snap off, how can I get the mount of now? Is there threads on the mount hole which the bolt goes through what will stop it sliding off or can I just try pulling it off over the thread what's left??????
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    There's no threads in the mount that comes off, there's only threads in the subframe. This happened on mine, I eventually managed to pull the mount off through the repeated use of heat/plusgas/hammer and screwdriver! I think lots of heat was the key though....
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    Thanks mate 20min job turned into alldayer.
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    has anyone bought that small round bush for the other end of the dog bone mount? is it worth getting?
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    Very hard to press out.....stiffens it up a lot though. You can get void fill bushes, just fill the void in original bush...easy to do , stiffens it up by 17-20% for about £15....superpro void fill bush.....good comments about that on the interweb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrj0ey View Post
    Very hard to press out.....stiffens it up a lot though. You can get void fill bushes, just fill the void in original bush...easy to do , stiffens it up by 17-20% for about £15....superpro void fill bush.....good comments about that on the interweb.
    Agreed. The problem is that there is a happy medium between too stiff and too soft.

    Too stiff will give you a LOT of vibration in the cabin which is very annoying and uncomfortable. Too soft allows excess engine movement.

    I'd say that just doing the main bush is sufficient.
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    got mine done. cars shakes n vibrated from dashboard but not that bad! feels so much better! out my foot down n response is instant gears feel a bit better going in too defo worth doing.
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    Does anyone know what torque the bolt that clamps the bushes together should be? i.e. not the 2 x 13mm bolts and neither of the "long" or "short" 16mm bolts.

    Hope that makes sense.

    EDIT: Torque the compression nut to 20 Nm (15ft-lbs) + 1/4 turn
    Last edited by vanilla_ice; 23rd May 2011 at 22:21. Reason: Found answer!

 

 
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