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    You two are amazing at finding track tyres. You just need to get yourself a pit team now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    You two are amazing at finding track tyres. You just need to get yourself a pit team now
    Im looking to Nicholas and Tori for that one.

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    I've got an alloy race jack and an impact gun, so we definitely look pro when we turn up at trackdays:



    Perhaps it's a case of 'All the gear and No idea' haha

    SuperK, Please edit your post! When Dad see's that he'll be planing a trip to SuperK world within minutes! we've got enough :P

    Tori: Hacking the AudiSport just to laugh at the idea of me knowing what to do with a set of tyres! I can make you cups of tea though!
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    Found this earlier, looks pretty cool.



    Shame it's sped up, and has a stupid name.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    I've got an alloy race jack and an impact gun, so we definitely look pro when we turn up at trackdays:



    Perhaps it's a case of 'All the gear and No idea' haha

    SuperK, Please edit your post! When Dad see's that he'll be planing a trip to SuperK world within minutes! we've got enough :P

    Tori: Hacking the AudiSport just to laugh at the idea of me knowing what to do with a set of tyres! I can make you cups of tea though!

    I wasn't thinking of you changing tyres. My thoughts were more along the lines of a couple of "saucepan lids"

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    Car is looking great mate top work was good to meet you the other day at ace cafe to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    Argh. No links to manifolds please Tuffty! I'm SOOOOOOOO tempted.
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    i think you should do it prawn.
    prove it either is or isnt beneficial at these power levels.
    its bound to change something, be it torque and power delivery somewhere in the rev range.

    DO IT

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    if I buy one and it doesn't work Westy has to promise to buy it off me so he can test it too :P

    In all seriousness though, when the engine is built and run in, I might consider trying one of those before it goes for mapping again.

    Rods, bolts, shells, and a head gasket set all bought I managed to tag onto a group buy with the Seat lads and got a good deal.

    Just need to fire a few PM's off with regards to getting my head rebuilt when the time comes, although with current work commitments it's not looking like I'll attack this until much later in the year

    I've got an APY bottom end to use, but after reading a post from Bill this morning I've decided I don't want to use the 9:1 CR pistons, I'd much rather stick with my 9.5:1 AGU pistons, as every successful hybrid so far has been large port and high compression.

    That leaves me with two choices: Either source some more AGU pistons now so I can build the block up ready to drop in, or accept a bit more down time for the car when I do the change, and strip mine down and re-use the pistons.

    I wonder what state the pistons will be in after 213k?
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    i think source some agu pistons if the apy block you have is good low miles.
    alternatively just get another agu engine, they can be had relatively cheap.

    you never no, you might open yours up and be very suprised by its condition.

    did you get that kit with rods shells bolts etc from ie?

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    Whats this group but about rods etc mate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani_B19 View Post
    Whats this group but about rods etc mate?
    i saw it on the xspower group on facebook.
    someone is a distributor for IE and was selling rebuild kits

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    AGU engines seem to go for a fortune these days! Oddly more than AUQ or AUM engines, I guess everyone wants the large port heads and there's the myth that they are miles stronger due to 20mm pins.

    If anyone has a set of AGU (or I think ibiza) pistons knocking around then please let me know! it'd be nice to get a whole engine, then I could have a head built on the side as well, and literally drop the whole lot in all complete, but I don't want to keep laying out money and buying parts I'll be removing from the car anyway!
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    545bhp on 9.4:1 CR on mine from 25psi

    suitably mapped keeps it "spritely" and not 'as' reliant on boost build
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    ive got some agu pistons and rods from my engine, but im in australia

    if you willing to pay the postage ill be happy to post em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neru View Post
    ive got some agu pistons and rods from my engine, but im in australia

    if you willing to pay the postage ill be happy to post em
    Where in Australia are you buddy?

    I'm currently over here and will be heading back to the UK in a month. I've bought Prawns daily off him so I'll be seeing him when I get back.

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    oooooooooooh, this sounds promising! out sourcing for parts at it's very best!

    Wonder what it'd cost to post them inland to Frenchman? How much would you want for the pistons Neru?

    Very rare to see Frenchman posting! I feel honoured
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchman View Post
    Where in Australia are you buddy?

    I'm currently over here and will be heading back to the UK in a month. I've bought Prawns daily off him so I'll be seeing him when I get back.
    Im in melbourne, one month should be plenty of time hopefully

    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    oooooooooooh, this sounds promising! out sourcing for parts at it's very best!

    Wonder what it'd cost to post them inland to Frenchman? How much would you want for the pistons Neru?

    Very rare to see Frenchman posting! I feel honoured
    Prawn it will be at least 2weeks - 1month till pistons will be out, give me a price for the pistons ill send photos when there out
    shouldn't be too expensive their not to heavy

    Just out of curiousity how come you didnt upgrade your pistons, im doing a similar build and went for the mahle 82.5mm pistons

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    Keep me up to date with how you're getting on dude. What sort of mileage are they on? and how much do you think you'll be wanting for them?

    I'm not feeling the need for new pistons, because from everything that's been done in the UK they're not really needed! Welly and Tufty both run standard pistons at around 400bhp
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    The car has done 170000km and throw me an offer not sure how much there worth

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    Neru: I'm going to have to pass on the pistons mate, something else has come up. Thanks very much for the offer though!

    I've now got myself a complete AGU engine for my new build, so things can start to move on!

    Picking the engine up Sunday, and hopefully stripping it all down on Monday

    Rods should arrive soon, and I'm looking into getting some head work done in the near future

    I'm also strangely obsessed with building my own exhaust at the moment, I don't know why. I've been inspired by Bills 3'' exhaust he made for the yellow leon race car, and really fancy having a go at myself. I know it'd never be as good as something Bill could make, but I love the idea of the challenge, building something totally from scratch
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    All good, looking forward to seeing progress good luck

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    Well that was a fun night!

    Went along to the COV meet in London. Took Mr Angell who I think was most inspired to return to the VAG scene

    Got there and found my number plate had some how fallen off! So much for the cheap ebay number plate doler

    I borrowed some card and scissors from the Worlds most legendary postman (Bobby - Thanks!), and a marker pen from someone else, and got busy making up something that SHOULD keep PC plod half way happy should he have felt the need to pull me over on the way home:



    Quick pic from the meet by Bobby:



    Absolutely top night, got a spin in Dons gt28 A3 TQ, and MY GOD, the launch is simply brutal. absolutely unreal launch like I've never known before. No wonder it runs 12s quarters! Once it's moving the pull is pretty relentless too. VERY nice car indeed.

    Took Don and Aaron out in mine too, I think they liked it
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    I think I can speak for don
    we loved your car
    surreal handling,epic quick and in the hands of someone that can clearly drive very well makes prawns car out of this world
    Don and prawn have a3's that will smash most S3's
    the best poverty models I've ever been in
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    Looks like it was a great night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    So, time for a drive!

    The results are very promising indeed

    I did 3 runs, through 3 gears, starting at the exact same point and same speed, and pulling to the same point.

    So, 3 gears, 20 seconds flat out.

    Without meth:

    After 2nd gear, IAT's were at 18 degrees.
    After 3rd gear, IAT's were at 24 degrees.
    After 4th gear, IAT's were at 30 degrees.

    With WMI on:

    After 2nd gear, IAT's were at 15 degrees.
    After 3rd gear, IAT's were at 18 degrees.
    After 4th gear, IAT's were at 21 degrees.

    So, on the first pull, IAT's are 17% lower
    On the second pull, IAT's are 25% lower
    Then on the third pull, IAT's are 30% lower.

    Pretty conclusive that it's working well I think. It was bloody hot here today as well. I'm not sure how warm, but I'd say it was at least 20 degrees.
    On the first pull, when there is no beat build up in the IC, the difference is lower, but after 20 seconds flat out, the difference is becoming more apparent.

    Real world, it definitely feels stronger with the WMI turned on, I logged timing and it's up by a degree or two on average when at WOT with WMI, but I'm sure there's scope for much more. Timing figures are generally around 19-20 degrees at the moment.

    I did a few back to back pulls, WMI on, then off, then on, and it's definitely better. it's also not used too much mix (50/50) on my 30 minute test drive, so that's good news.

    I've put a marker on the tank after my drive so I can check if I'm getting any syphon issues like Westy and Stacey did:

    prawn very good work mate how long did it take to do the lot from start to finish as im after getting coz my IATs are high as f.....k
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    Quote Originally Posted by AARON77 View Post
    I think I can speak for don
    we loved your car
    surreal handling,epic quick and in the hands of someone that can clearly drive very well makes prawns car out of this world
    Don and prawn have a3's that will smash most S3's
    the best poverty models I've ever been in
    good work lads
    Too right Aaron!! WOW!!!
    I was blown away by how well your car is set up. Iv now decided no more power till I finish sorting out my set up cos I'm nearly there but as you proved mate not quite there yet!!!


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    Thanks Don you won't regret it mate!

    Its so important to have the complete package, rather than just focus on one thing like power, itll make it so much more enjoyable to use

    Your car is bloody impressive Don, one of the most complete I've seen for sure, and it shows by how well it goes. That launch!!!!!
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    prawny baby!
    do you know off the top of your head the mintex race pads you used? the name/number?
    without me trawling through nearly 2000 posts!

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    M1177`s i think he said?

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    Yup, bang on Jason.

    Mintex 1177 Karl, although I'm not sure if they still make them any more, they might have been replaced by something like the mintex FR4.

    I found that the DS3000's were amazing, but seemed to leave a deposit on the discs which other pads didn't get on with. I didn't have the budget for more DS3000's at the time, so tried the Mintex and found them just as good, without the deposit build up.

    It's a proper extreme race pad though, noisey as hell, but absolutely face distorting power right from the first press, Don and Dan were following me on Saturday night whilst braking hard into a roundabout with warm tyres, and Dan reckoned the car almost did a stoppie!
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    i think theyre now called the rc5.
    its just my mate is looking for some for his wilwood 4 pots.
    dunno what pads are in them at the minute but they are crazy good!
    so i think he wants to compare the ds3000 to the mintex race pads that are available (rc5 i think).
    the ferrodo ones are £162 for his calipers. would be good if the mintex are cheaper and youre saying they are just as good.
    what did you pay compared to ferrodos?

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    If you can find the part number then Camskill seem to still list them. They`re one of the cheapest too. I`ll be buying my M1155`s from there when i have some cash.

    For example of the price differences DS2500`s are around 130 for mine and the M1155`s are 98 from Camskill.

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    the mintex were a good bit less than the DS3000's, and seem to be just as good, but I think the new equivalent is about the same price, so I'm not sure what to buy next. I've got a set of part used Carbotech XP8's to try next, if I can find where I've hidden them!

    In others news, I picked up my new AGU engine on Sunday from George Seamons, but of a mission to Norwich and back, but well worth it:



    But the FAR more interesting news, is that I finally got to modify the Polo a bit :P

    It needed 4 new tyres, and Tori said that if I could find some nice alloys with decent tyres on for less than the price of 4 good tyres on the standard wheels, we could go for it.


    Polo before, looking a bit sad:




    A quick quote from Pro-Tyre set my budget, and I got hunting on ebay. After about 20 minutes searching for everything VW / polo / golf related, I wasn't having much luck, and thought I'd change a search for '14'' alloy wheels' and sort by distance.

    As luck would have it, these beauties popped up, just 15 miles from home at a reasonable price, shod with goodyear Eagle NCT's



    Annoyingly, google failled me, and a quick check on centre bore turned out to be wrong, so when I got them home, the centres were too small. AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!

    I decided to try something I wouldn't recommend to anyone else, and re-bore the centres myself.

    Much time and care, a carbide tipped burr, and constant checking with calipers, and one dead drill, and the job was done, time for a test fit:



    Tori didn't like the BBS centre caps, as they're a bit too obvious being big nut style caps, so I managed to get the standard VW centre caps to fit, which makes it look much more OEM+. She loves it, and so do I!





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    get it slammed!

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    Didn't even know you'd got ANOTHER car how do you afford to run all these motors? Also, are your work happy with you using their car for picking up engines
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    The Polo is Tori's car, nicknamed Tabby due to the number plate. It's great fun, and unstoppable in the snow too!

    Should probably explain, those BBS wheels are infact from a mk1 Mazda MX5, hence the fitment issues. Dead chuffed we got them though, they really suit the car.

    Just needs some lowering springs now, it's had an advisory on corroded springs for 2 years at the MOT now, so this year will be the year it gets dropped, even Tori herself said it'd look better lowered

    Work will be fine with it Westy :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Didn't even know you'd got ANOTHER car how do you afford to run all these motors? Also, are your work happy with you using their car for picking up engines
    Dont tell anybody, but he has a proper job. (on the side)

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    Love this thread! It fould be fun to see an complete and up to date spec list on the car.
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