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    3" Tip Installation Results

    Hello,

    After buying the Badger5 3" Tip bits and Cone Filter from Bill, I thought I would post the results,

    My car is a S3, Standard K04-22, Miltek, 3" downpipe, sport cat.

    The first log is from a while ago but nothing has changed since with Silicone Tip and Green Panel Filter:-




    Post 3" Tip and Cone Filter:-




    As it is clear to see there is definitely a difference in mass air flow, as before I stuggled to see greater than 200g/s. I know they are not the best logs (3rd Gear) 4th would be better

    Obviously a Dyno would be the real proof but looks good to me.....

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    nice results, I went to Bills yesterday so he could get some official figures with the dyno but we didn't even get to even installing it as it turns out my car is running uber lean and the timing pull hit 12! But those are some awesome results
    Last edited by Dane; 29th November 2010 at 22:23.

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    Cool, that will be the real proof! I will have to log the timing pulls on mine (forgot about them).

    Did Bill think the lean ness may be due to the 3" tip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barks View Post
    Cool, that will be the real proof! I will have to log the timing pulls on mine (forgot about them).

    Did Bill think the lean ness may be due to the 3" tip?
    Didn't fit the TIP in the end... Danes S3 is wideband so any mild change in airflow would be adjusted out by the ECU.... something else is afoot methinks but Dane is on the case... will be testing this again soon hopefully..

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    Oops should of been more clear lean-ness and timing nothing to do with the tip just my car, sorry.

    Edit: I've edited my first post to reflect the above
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    Ahh, I see

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    oh we like that..
    nice one Dave.. thats a great result.
    thankyou for posting..

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    So how much would one of these TIPs set us back Bill?

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    Need to do a few more runs I think and as you say in 4th. The airflow is completely different up the revs.

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    So figures asides, how does it feel on the road in comparison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breezey View Post
    So how much would one of these TIPs set us back Bill?
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    The air flow is definately different though out the rev range, but I do need some 4th gear pulls but it is a bit icy at the mo.

    It does seem like it wants to pull a bit more higher up the rev range where it usually runs out of puff, and it make a little more noise when the foot is flat to the floor (in a good way! nice turbo sound).


    I will have to try some more logging with the ignition pull and in 4th for some longer better logs.

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    sounds great. how does it compare to forge one? anyone know. in theory i see it should a fair bit better

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveA3 View Post
    sounds great. how does it compare to forge one? anyone know. in theory i see it should a fair bit better
    this is compared with the silicon TIP..

    previous comparisons to the silicon TIP below as a reminder (on wellys hybrid)
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    ahh so it seems to be better higher up in the range which is good!

    cheers bill

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    this was on the hybrid.. yea, but it kept going.
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    Any pics of the set up / parts bill, seams like a good breakthrough very interested nice work
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    Quote Originally Posted by higher1 View Post
    Any pics of the set up / parts bill, seams like a good breakthrough very interested nice work

    Another hybrid conversion thread....
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    My previous set up was with a Green Panel filter and a autobann Tip,

    so basicly a Forge one, so there are gains to be made me thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by higher1 View Post
    Any pics of the set up / parts bill, seams like a good breakthrough very interested nice work
    info in my scn section, pictures prices etc etc

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    cheers look forward to hearing about the results
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    Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
    info in my scn section, pictures prices etc etc

    full 76mm/3" k04 LCR/S3/TT TIP gauging interest.. - SEAT Cupra.net - SEAT Forum

    first ordered batch leaves for folks tomorrow..
    expect a lot more results in the next week or so me thinks


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