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    Brake pads and discs, which first?

    Hi guys, looking at replacing the discs and pads on the front even though they are supposedly only 25% worn...

    However, can I replace just the pads at first, see if that helps, then replace discs at a later date? Or is it the other way around? Basically, I don't want to replace my discs if I don't need to, but don't want to ruin of DS2500 pads!!

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    If your disks are knackered they will ruin your pads.

    Just do them both.

    Your not half in for some spending by the looks of things ! Brakes, Suspension etc

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    Tell me about it Ian. The car isn't perfect, which means my bank card comes out

    Thanks for the input Ian.

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    Happy to help.

    I envy you tbh, mine needs paint

    Its the curse of wanting a mint 'old' car

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    you always fit new pads to new discs so id do both think Brembo discs are 100 a pair from GSF
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    Thanks chap, I wasn't sure if I could get away with new pads on old discs. The reason being, if they're 25% worn, I'm chucking out discs that are perfectly acceptable!

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    you can fit new pads to old discs but if you think they are suspect then for 100 id change the lot then you know where you are.
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    Agreed buddy, I've PM'd Bill

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    What's wrong with your brakes exactly? 25% worn on your disks or pads or both? It's normal for pads to wear our quicker than disks, and just to replace the pads alone, but if you are changing disks, then most people would change the pads at the same time, as pads are relatively cheap compared to disks, so change them whilst it's all off.



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    What discs to people recommend for going with a set of DS2500's?

    Is there much difference between after market discs and OE discs if you are sticking on a pair of DS2500's?

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    Standard discs with a set of DS2500 is the best combination

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    Thanks buddy, have PM'd Bill and will get on the blower to him later today. Standard discs and DS2500s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD09 View Post
    Thanks buddy, have PM'd Bill and will get on the blower to him later today. Standard discs and DS2500s.
    Thats the best way forward... I need to do exactly that as both my discs and pads are shot.

    However, I am royally skinto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    Thats the best way forward... I need to do exactly that as both my discs and pads are shot.

    However, I am royally skinto.
    Likewise, but on to the credit card it goes for next month.........o. Lol.

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    ive got some ds2500's waiting to go on. i was going to try a set of brembo max discs.

    FRONT BREMBO MAX BRAKE DISCS AUDI S3 1.8 T 99-03 on eBay (end time 03-Nov-10 21:57:45 GMT)

    Anyone used black diamond predator pads? iv got some for the rear. i know they dont need to be uprated but i got them off ebay for 16! so i thought they would be worth a punt.

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    60 for standard brake discs www.vwspares.co.uk , are these uprated discs really of any great benefit for normal driving with a bit of fun every now and again?

    Which do you get most bang for your buck? Uprated pads or uprated discs? I would have thought that better pads will give you the better return. Whereas better discs will only show their worth if you are hammering the brakes around a track and need them to stay cooler and withstand a lot higher temperatures than you'd hit on the road?

    I'm going for a set of DS2500's myself...just wondering should I shell out the extra cash on uprated discs?

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    Pagid Brake Disc (Front)


    34.02


    Pagid Audi - Euro Car Parts UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    Don't think they are DS2500's?

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    For future reference, the parts for an S3 are:

    Ferodo DS2500 Front Pads, Part Number: FCP590H

    Front Brake Disc (312MM), Part Number: 8N0615301A

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    thanks, surely must be an online shop that selld S3 ferodos, sellers on here are extorsionate

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    Quick Google FERODO DS2500 BRAKE PADS - FCP590H Ferodo DS2500 Brake pads :: 148.45 :: Ferodo Performance Brake Pads :: Ferodo Part Numbers FCP551 to FCP650 :: ...apparently for 4 pads (I think this is incorrect, it only includes the front two pads)?
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    Each side (disc) takes two pads. Hence 4 in total.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JD09 View Post
    Each side (disc) takes two pads. Hence 4 in total.
    Ah, makes sense now, thanks!

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    if they are only 25% worn personally i'd be wacking the pads on, the pads are always going to wear out well before a new set of discs are, i think you get 2 or 3 sets of pads to a pair of discs....going against everyone (suprise suprise ) i would just buy the pads and use the discs as tests....if you like em then next time buy the full set if you need em

    look at it another way, were you changing the pads as per normal, you wouldnt buy a new set of discs everytime....so why in this scenario

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    I agree ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    if they are only 25% worn personally i'd be wacking the pads on, the pads are always going to wear out well before a new set of discs are, i think you get 2 or 3 sets of pads to a pair of discs....going against everyone (suprise suprise ) i would just buy the pads and use the discs as tests....if you like em then next time buy the full set if you need em

    look at it another way, were you changing the pads as per normal, you wouldnt buy a new set of discs everytime....so why in this scenario

    apologies for applying logic
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    That was my thought, but for 60 from Bill for front discs, I don't want to go ruining the 135 pads.

    Making sense though, Timmath!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD09 View Post
    That was my thought, but for 60 from Bill for front discs, I don't want to go ruining the 135 pads.

    Making sense though, Timmath!
    I'm still baffled, why would using your old disks ruin your new pads? Save your 60 and use your old disks!



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    I don't know Joe, that was my original question lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD09 View Post
    I don't know Joe, that was my original question lol!
    It's common for people to change pads regularly using the original disks, if you brake pedal doesn't judder under braking, I don't see why you would need new disks, it doesn't take long for a new pad to bed into the disks, as naturally, the pad wears out quicker than brake disks. But in a scenario where the disks need replacing, people change the pads aswell, as they have to come off for the disks to be changed anyways, and in general, brake pads cost less than disks to replace.



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    That makes the most sense!

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    Just to throw another spanner in the works, i've been told that the DS pads are excellent, but they dont last five mins.
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    i fear that the discs changing is sheep mentality not wanting to offend other members...... unless someone can come up with a prominent argument as to why you would change discs that have less than 50% wear.....

    this is your chance to speak up lovely people
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    It's common for people to change pads regularly using the original disks, if you brake pedal doesn't judder under braking, I don't see why you would need new disks, it doesn't take long for a new pad to bed into the disks, as naturally, the pad wears out quicker than brake disks. But in a scenario where the disks need replacing, people change the pads aswell, as they have to come off for the disks to be changed anyways, and in general, brake pads cost less than disks to replace.
    And if you are paying 200+ discs you don't want some half used pads that have moulded themselves to the old disk pattern

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    i fear that the discs changing is sheep mentality not wanting to offend other members...... unless someone can come up with a prominent argument as to why you would change discs that have less than 50% wear.....

    this is your chance to speak up lovely people
    Agreed, mine were an MOT failure, so i had no choice

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    I used to think 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs but general pads now seem to do 40k and the discs ive seen always look well lipped so I normally change both now and have done. Pads used to last 10k max but I think they have hardened them poss to reduce service intervals ???
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